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Davno sam čitao o ovoj ogoljenoj verziji XP-a pa me interesuju iskustva. Instalirao sam ga na Virtual mašini i sve mi izgleda brzo ali kako se pokazao u svakodnevnom radu?

Kod:
   eXPerience Proudly Presents:

                           "TinyXP"

   ##############################################
   #                                            #
   # SIZE OF RAR ARCHIVE..... 104,878,406 bytes #
   #                                            #
   # SIZE OF ISO FILE........ 117,725,184 bytes #
   #                                            #
   #  DISC CONTENTS = 1633 Files > 102 Folders  #
   #                                            #
   ##############################################

   Windows XP Pro SP2 Unattended (UK Version)

   Please check your downloaded TinyXP with the
   sizes and other data in the box above to ensure
   that you have a genuine eXPerience release!

   All three files included here (TXT, RAR and SFV)
   should have the "Date Modified" as 1st January 2010   

   All files, when copied from the CD to your
   computer, should have the date created and
   date modified both set on 21 December 2012

   Some releases are unpacked, then altered, then
   re-packed, it is called "stealing work" and to
   safeguard against this I have included about ten
   seperate countermeasures... a secret DLL file with ISO
   size info contained within it, a custom eXPerience
   system picture, support info, wallpaper, and info packed
   into the install itself also with the ISO size data for
   you to check, so even if THIS NFO gets altered, the info
   inside the installation itself will soon tell you the truth.
   I have therefore made this TAMPER PROOF because you cannot
   change the size of one thing without the info being wrong!
   If you alter the ISO, it won't be the same size, if you alter
   this NFO, the release still has those ten safeguards inside
   as part of its development which will tell you instantly that
   this it is an eXPerience release due to the wallpaper and other
   custom info.

   If you have got this release from anywhere EXCEPT "The Pirate Bay"
   (prq.to/announce) as a torrent, YOU MUST CHECK ALL SIZES ABOVE MATCH! 
   
   NOTE: In the text file on the top of the start menu, this
   installation says the ISO is 103Mb without the programs
   and 105Mb with programs - this is the one thing I did not
   update from the older beta versions of this release!!!!!
   Therefore when you see this, DO NOT WORRY! This ISO should
   be 112Mb, the RAR file is 100Mb.

   Thank you for you interest in this stripped out (112Mb)
   Edition of XP.  I clocked mine in Task Manager
   using only 39.5Mb of RAM. Windows XP usually uses
   300Mb of RAM at the very least.  This "TinyXP" not only
   runs fast, but takes up only 400Mb total space on your
   system hard drive. Thats the "WINDOWS" folder, "Documents
   and settings" and "Program Files"

   By using only 40Mb of RAM, this allows
   your PC to run fast, I mean VERY fast!

   All important hardware drivers and other essentials
   have been kept in this release - You have joystick
   support, printer support and other bare essentials.
   "Microsoft SideWinder" support has been left in.

   NOTE: You cannot use Microsoft Office with
   this tiny edition of Windows XP. You still have
   one Microsoft application left in Windows - MS
   Paint. The Calculator is gone, as is Wordpad.

   GONE is that nasty Internet Explorer, it does not
   exist in this Edition! Whats nice about this TinyXP
   is this... When this XP has installed, (the
   install takes just six minutes) you will have a
   link on the "Start Menu" under "Programs" to a
   standalone internet browser that takes up only
   358Kb on the CD... This "OffByOne" browser is a
   great space saving alternative to the usual
   browsers everyone uses. Because WinRAR is also
   installed with this TinyXP, it is easy to click
   the browser shortcut in the "Start Menu" and simply
   drag the file "OB1.exe" out of WinRAR and to any
   directory you choose. This really is a "standalone"
   internet browser, would work even on Windows 95
   and possibly as far back as Windows 3.11.  This
   browser does not require I.E. or any of the DLL or
   OCX files I.E. would be using. Hats off to OffByOne!

   Also included is a standalone BitTorrent client,
   uTorrent.  This tiny BT client is only 105Kb!

   All the programs included use "nearly zero" resources.

   Windows Media Player is NOT included at all in this install.
   You will have to grab some kind of player from somewhere
   if you want to play movies and audio files. To play WMV
   or WMA files you will probably have to install some version
   of the proper "Windows Media Player". It is OK in most cases
   to then uninstall it and it will leave behind those essential
   files that were missing, neat trick, but hey we don't want
   this crap on our system! Things like this just slow it down!

   GONE also are all Windows noises like startup and
   shutdown noises, but audio DOES work. You cannot
   use Microsoft Office, but you DO have support if
   you want to install a printer... you can see below
   what devices are supported in TinyXP. 

   This XP Pro SP2 Unattended is so tiny at just 112Mb




---------------------------------------------------------------------
#####################################################################
---------------------------------------------------------------------

  Windows XP Pro Custom Added Features:
   
   Custom eXPerience Wallpaper - The Only Remaining Wallpaper

   NT Registry Tweaks For Performance, Games, Internet & More

---------------------------------------------------------------------

  Complete With Pre-Installed web
  Browser & 10 Installed Programs...


   Standalone Internet Browser (OffByOne)....... (358Kb)

   Standalone BitTorrent Client (uTorrent)...... (105Kb)

   System Defragmenter.......................... (43Kb)
   
   DLL Viewer................................... (36Kb)

   Hard Disk Temperature Tool................... (59Kb)

   HijackThis................................... (213Kb)

   Shell Extension Viewer....................... (35Kb)

   SpaceMonger.................................. (95Kb)

   Startup Control Panel........................ (34Kb)

   TCP View..................................... (46Kb)

   WinRAR Corporate............................  (990Kb)

---------------------------------------------------------------------
   
   TOTAL Space Used For All 11 Programs......... (2Mb)
   
   Full ISO Size Without These Programs......... (110Mb)

   Full ISO Size With These Programs............ (112Mb)

---------------------------------------------------------------------

  Integrated XP "Post SP2" Windows
  Updates (Hotfixes) 23rd June 2005

   KB873333
   KB873339
   KB883939
   KB885250
   KB885835
   KB885836
   KB886185
   KB887742
   KB888113
   KB888302
   KB890046
   KB890175
   KB890830
   KB890859
   KB891781
   KB893066
   KB893086
   KB896358
   KB896422
   KB896428
   KB893803

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###########################################
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   FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:



   Q: Why do you claim this ISO is 112Mb but also give the size in bytes as 117Mb?

   A: Because there are 1024 Kilobytes in a Megabyte, not 1000. It IS 112Mb.



   Q: Can I install TinyXP on a laptop?

   A: No, hardware support has been removed for any battery powered PC
   


   Q: Can I use M$ Office with TinyXP?

   A: No, because the "Jet Database" has been removed.



   Q: I'm confused, there is no "setup.exe" on the CD?

   A: You should only install TinyXP by booting from the CD


   
   Q: Whats been taken out apart from the Jet Database for Office?

   A: Really, not much that can affect anything under normal use.



   This Edition does not support the installing/plugging in
   of any scanners or video capture devices (webcams/digital
   cameras). Calculator and Wordpad are removed. ALL drivers
   are removed with the exception of "Sound Controllers" and
   "Microsoft Sidewinder" Gamepad/Joystick. On the networking
   side you still have "Active Directory" and although "Internet
   Explorer" has been taken out, there is still the core
   of IE left in, because so many programs depend on IE on
   some basic level. You can also still install a printer.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
########################################################################
------------------------------------------------------------------------

  Here is a clear breakdown of the
  core components LEFT IN TinyXP...

-------------------------------------------

   APPLICATIONS:

   Paint

-------------------------------------------

   DRIVERS:

   Microsoft Sidewinder
   Sound Controllers

-------------------------------------------

   HARDWARE SUPPORT:

   ALI IDE Bus Driver
   CMD IDE Bus Driver
   Firewire (1394) Support
   Floppy Support
   Internal IDE Bus Driver
   Joystick Support
   Logical Disk Manager
   Modem Support
   Multi Processor Support
   Ports (COM+LTP)
   Printer Support
   Toshiba IDE Bus Driver
   USB Audio Support
   VIA IDE Bus Driver

-------------------------------------------

   LANGUAGES:

   English (United Kingdom)

-------------------------------------------

   MULTIMEDIA:

   Acm Core Codecs

-------------------------------------------

   NETWORK:

   Active Directory Service
   Internet Explorer Core

-------------------------------------------

   OPERATING SYSTEM OPTIONS:

   Logon Notifications
   Shell Media Handler
   Task Scheduler
   User Account Pictures

-------------------------------------------
      
   SERVICES:

   Event Log
   Network Location Awareness (NLA)
   Secondary Logon
   Shell Services
   Wireless Zero Configuration

-------------------------------------------
###########################################
-------------------------------------------


   #############################
   #   TinyXP (by eXPerience)  #
   #  Build Date: 18.11.2005   #
   # Release Date: Winter 2005 #
   #############################

   © eXPerience 2005

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PostPoslato: 25.08.2006. 15:55:38 
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E, ja nikako da ga probam, eno, stoji mi Rev02 ISO, nikako da ga srezem na neki RW i testiram. A ima i problema sa nekim stvarima (npr. skidanje zakrpa i sl.), posto je "narodna" verzija Windowsa koriscena., mada vidim da 94% ljudi koji su probali ima pozitivna iskustva i reci hvale.

Aj testiraj to malo, pa daj utiske

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ja znam za neku rusku game verziju, a tu je i čuvena borg
svašta ljudi rade...

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da ponovim jesam testirao ali na VMwareu, gde sam bio uskraćen za neke stvari, npr. VMware čudno prepoznaje moju karticu (NVidia 6600) te nisam mogao da instaliram Forceware drajvere itede.

inače OS ima neverovatno mali footprint u memoriji (40MB) i iziskuje malo prostora na HDD-u (nisam siguran čini mi se oko 300-400MB).

kažu ne može MS Office (zbog potpuno izbačenog Jet enginea) ali meni on treba kao lanjski sneg.

na kraju krajeva, sam sebi postavljam pitanje - šta će mi to? pored svih isključenih servisa i XPlite čačkanja vreme podizanja sistema mi je oko 1 minut a i u radu je sve prilično brzo.

ipak, probaću uživo čim narežem jedan ghost primarne particije.

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Za grafiku treba da se instaliraju VMware Tools. Ti ni nemas tvoju graficku unutar VMware-a, vec virtuelnu, SVGA II sa citavih 512KB Video RAMa.

Ta "verzija" XPa je namestena da bi radila na slabim masinama, a na savremenim da leti.

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^ da, da to je to. a instalirao sam i VMware Tools. ma samo uživo bi bio pravi test. videću.

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E da šta je Borg XP? Šta je tu sve promenjeno?
Nikako da ga probam, a čitao sam i da ima neku foru pri instalaciji, ide odbrojavanje i ako ne izabereš opciju dovoljno brzo on nastavlja sam... ?

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Borg XP ti je ono iz Mominog potpisa, s tim sto reci izgovara cika Billy Windows, pardon, Gates. :mrgreen:

P.S. Sta bi za mp3 player?

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Sto se samog prostora tice, imam potpuno funkcionalnu verziju XPSP2 koja zauzima 100 i kusur MB na disku, a posle instalacije 365MB. Uzeo sam nLite i povadio sve sto mi nije potrebno. S tim sto ovde i office moze regularno da se instalira?!? Ali sam pobrisao sve moguce drajvere i ubacio samo one koji su mi bili potrebni za masinu za kojuje je ta verzija bila namenjna.
Dakle, nema razloga da ne radi kako treba.

BTW, kad smo vec kod velicine XP-a, ukoliko ste stavili sve zakrpe i sacuavli uninstall fajlove, sasvim je moguce da ste prebacili 3GB!!! Masina sa koje trenutno kucam ima 2.56 GB(2.79 zauzeto zbog klastera).

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Kod:
Windows XP Borg Edition V 5.0

This is it....the last edition until vista is released.......

I have used Winrar to compress this edition.....Uncompress it ONLY ONCE! The iso is inside....
Go to [COLOR=orange]www.iso-tek.org[/COLOR] for support but, READ ME FIRST!
This compilation DVD will install windows automatically after you tell it where to install to. DO NOT upgrade....DO NOT install over another windows install.


[SIZE=7]!!!!!!!!!!!YOU MUST FORMAT AND DO A FRESH INSTALL!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]

Upon initiating a fresh, clean install, windows will not ask for a serial, or activation, or registration! If it does...your doing it wrong! SEE Above!
After windows completes installation and after first reboot, the WPI Borg menu will appear for 120 seconds for you to choose your own programs.
When you click the install button, everything you selected will be silently installed - no user interaction is required.
If you do not click anywhere on the menu screen before 120 seconds has elapsed, a default selection of about 30 apps will install automatically.
 The serial and cracks folder has been updated as well so, if your chosen app is not " cracked" then go there and get the appropriate can opener.
Any cracks with an NFO file - use the notepad and READ IT! Any cracksserials that I missed......Humor me - go and find them yourself!

If you get blue screen or freezes - then you may not be able to use this DVD....I tried to make it as compatible as possible
for as many machines as I could but, I can't include drivers for every configuration or I would not have any space left for any apps!
There are over 10,000 drivers or more for various manufacturers out there so I expect a few problems in that area.....Every other Borg edition worked quite well
for the magority of people but........I don't appreciate whiners whose comps fall through the cracks - live with it!

Consists of:
Windows XP Corp SP 2 Final

Drivers:
Over 1000 drivers for LAN, Sound, Mass Storage, Wireless Lan and Graphics included

AudioVideo Applications:
Microsoft Windows Media Player 10.0
Power DVD 6.0
Intervideo Win DVD 7.0 Premium
K-Lite Codec Pack 2.63
BS Player Pro 1.37
Macromedia Shockwave/Flash Players 8.0
NVIDIA Sound Control Panel (if required)
WinAmp 5.092

CD\DVD Applications:
Alcohol 120% 3105
CloneCD 5.2.51
CloneDVD 2.8.4.1
AnyDVD 4.5.5.1
DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15
DVD Santa 4.0
DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0
Nero 6.6 - 7.0 is a waste of space
Nero Mega Plug in Pack
UltraIso 7.6.5.1225
Open Video Joiner 3.0.0

Graphics:
Adobe Photoshop CS2
Snagit 7.2.1
Irfanview 3.97
PhotoFiltre

Internet:
ABC Bittorrent Client 3.1
Azureus 2.3.0.6
Burst! 3.1b Bittorrent Client
MSN Messenger 7.5 w Plus
Mozilla FireFox 1.5
Mozilla Thunderbird 1.07
Opera Web Browser 8.0
Flashget 1.71 Final
LimeWire Pro 4.8.1
Cute FTP Pro 7.0
UltraFXP 1.07
WsFtp Pro 8.0
Tight VNC 1.2.9
E-Mule Plus 0.46c
FileZilla 2.2.17a
Skype 1.4
Trillian Pro 3.1

Office:
Office 2003 SP 1
Front Page 2003 SP 1
Adobe Acrobat Pro 7.0 Full
Microsoft ActiveSync 4.1
PageBreeze 3.0b
123 Renamer
Adobe Acrobat Pro 7.0
Foxit PDF Reader
Microsoft Reader 2.1.1

Security:
Avast Professional 4.6.731
AVG Anti-Virus 7.1
Kaspersky Anti-Virus 5.0.388
Symantec Anti-Virus 10.0 Corporate
XoftSpy 4.19.131
Sygate Personal Firewall 5.6.331
Kerio Personal Firewall 4.2.2
Outpost Agnitum Firewall Pro 2.7
Noadware Spyware Remover 4.0
Ad-Aware Pro SE 1.06
Zone Alarm Pro 6.1.737

System:
Dot Net Framework 2.0
Microsoft Java VM Build 3809
Sun Java 2 V5.0.6 W/SP2
Diskeeper 10.0 Pro
Vopt Defragger 7.22

Utilities:
Desktop Side Bar 1.04.88
Gmail Desktop Notifier
CrapCleaner 1.26
Stat Bar 2.406
7-Zip 4.31
Tweaknow Powerpack 2006
Tune Up Utilities 2006
WinRar 3.51
WinZip Professional v10.0
Registry Workshop 2.5.0
RegSupreme Pro 1.2
Registry Mechanic 5.0
ISScript 10.0
CPU-Z
GameXP


mada zaintrigirao me i nLite. sa njim kreiraš bootabilni ISO WinXP-a sa predefinisanim stvarima - po potrebi.

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nlite je i vishe od toga... integrisanje drajvera, patcheva, tweak-ova... bootabilnih diskova...

prog je chudo. preporodio sam se od kako ga koristim!!!
reinstal vishe nije problem ni na mojoj ni na drugim mashinama... lepo tvikujesh win da bidne kaki ti o'sh i nakon instalacije (postoji i full automated instalation, koja zahteva da samo ubacish cd, podesish target drive i odesh na kaficu ne morash ni cd key da ukucavash) kad se vrnesh iz klonje ilo chega vec, imash full customized win jelte!!! ma brooka... :D :D :D
full rstekpa @ nuhi!!!

inache chuo sam za tiny xp, koristio ga je jedan moj ortak, kazhe da je sa strane informatichara shit... ogoljen je skroz naskroz... izgleda da je pravljen iskljuchivo za gejmere, kojima ne treba nishta vishe...

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^ Meni je ipak bolja varianta norton ghost. Za 11 minuta mi se vrati sistem na prvobitno stanje (sto podrazumeva clean WinXP, osnovne programcice, sve drivere).

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probao sam TinyXP.
nisam mogao da instaliram DirectX.
obrisao ga.

probao nlite.
ugradio poslednji sp2 sa svim patchevima.
nlite je pucao nakon što sam ga usmeravao na taj direktorijum gde se nalazi modifikovani Win.

digao ruke i lepo instalirao običan WinXP SP2 koji sam imao od ranije.

edit:
naravno kasnije sam ga modifikovao sa XPlite-om i ručno.

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Ja koristim TinyXp već neko vreme na dve mašine i jako lepo radi. Na drugoj mašini (koja je prilično stara i gde zeza grafička) samo on hoće da radi, dok instalacija običnog puca. Kod mene fino radi i ne buni se :) Directx sam instalirao bez problema kao i sve ostale programčiće koji su mi trebali. Jedino je zezao ICS ali mi je drugar namestio nat32 tako da je i to rešeno

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@ pirossi: meni nikad nije pucao a mrdzhovao sam ne znam ni sam koliko verija xp-ova i patcheva i ... chega vishe ne secam se!!! da li imash .net instaliran. ako nemash instaliraj ili .net full od ms-a (ups, hocu reci M$-a :D ) ili .net runtime library (ili tako nekako) koji mozhes da nadjesh na nuhijevom sajtu.

proko, ako te zeza xp full na starijoj makini instaliraj 2000 pro! os je PERFEKCIJA i ja ga koristim na staroj makini, na kojoj mi radi shveca. josh se nije bunila!

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^ imao sam .net framework 2.0

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fora je do grafičke koja je blago rečeno krš koji crkava :) No trebalo bi uskoro da ubaci nešto normalno pa ete i nromalnog wina :) Fala u svakom slučaju

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@ pirossi: ne znam u chemu je 3p, ali on izgleda trazhi 1.1! iako bi trebalo, ako imash 2.0 da sve shto radi sa prethodnim verzijama shljaka ok, meni je npr visual studio instalirao i 1.1 sa sp-om i 2.0! :zbun: probaj sa 1.1 ili runtime fajlovima od nje. imash ih na sajtu nlite-a! ako hocesh/ako ti treba, naravno!

@ prokka: ockie... nema na chemu (bukvalno) :D ;)

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^ možda je problem bio i sa onim SP2+kumulativni patch? bio je neki čudan sa DEBUG u imenu. a skinuo ga direkt sa M$ sajta.

već sam očistio novoinstalirani sistem od gluposti, još da narežem ghost i pa pa...

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mozhda, ali ne verujem. probaj da nabavish .net 1.1 sa sp-om (dolazi na cd-u visual studia, ako ga imash). to bi trebalo 99% da ti reshi problem. imao sam foru sa plan-plus-om 2006. on je instalirao 1.1, kad sam nabavio 2.0, mislio sam da mi vishe ne treba 1.1, pa sam ga skinuo, instalirao 2.0 i restartovao sistem. plan plus nije vishe hteo da radi. tek nakon reinstalacije programa (kad se reinstalirao i .net 1.1) je proradilo... luda je ideja, ali ako 2 razlicite verzije .net-a mogu da stoje na jednoj makini i da se ne kose, verovatno je sa razlogom to!

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Čitam da TinyXP rev5 omogućava instalaciju MS office-a. A postoji i TinyXP Vista edition koja je malo manje stesana i ima Aero temu. Čak su i WGA ishakovali :)

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džaba sve to kada mi ne radi TV-kartica na "tajniju".

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